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eschergirls:

talesfromtheend:

eschergirls:

A) I love how drawing women to him means “drawing women who wear make up in a style I like” and that superheroines apparently spend a lot of their off-time applying mascara and eyeliner.
B) Men can’t wear earrings?  Women must?
C) Again, the intense fear of making women “masculine.”  Apparently nose bridges are only for men now.  We must inform our DNA of this! 
D) I wish he would stop using “woman” to mean just one really really thin narrow standard of beauty.  Supposedly, he’s teaching people how to draw WOMEN right, not “this particular woman, complete with make up and pouty lips.”
He’s not teaching us how to draw women as much as his (and society’s) artificial idea of what women should look like, complete with eyeliner, mascara and earrings.

I need to rebloob this because all, ALL of these ‘how to draw comics women’ and ‘how to draw manga’ books need to go away. They’re extremely harmful to the development of beginning artists. They’re completely counterproductive in teaching formulaic ways of drawing people and advocate doing things in a specific style straight off the bat, as opposed to learning the basics through realism and THEN stylizing with a complete understanding of *what* you’re breaking apart and reassembling and how it’s constructed.
There’s SO much more to human faces than predefined ratios and proportions and ‘ideal’ shapes, and by telling young artists to remove the exact most defining traits of human facial features (and anatomy as a whole) is like breaking their kneecaps and then telling them to learn to run. The emphasis absolutely needs to be centered on drawing and painting varied and interesting faces with personality in them, not some strictly predefined hyper-idealized features that leave out everything that actually enables us to tell one face from another.
I’m saying this because this kind of thinking really crippled my learning for years and I had to unlearn all this shit and start over from scratch. I wish someone had told me early on that I was doing it wrong and needed to do it THIS way to get any good at it.

I’m reblogging this comment because it’s absolutely correct and needs to be spread around.  This is exactly the problems with these kinds of “how to draw comics” guide because it’s really “how to draw a very very specific style” and the how to draw women stuff is really “how to draw women as I specifically like them down to wearing eyeliner” and it doesn’t teach you any basics to draw people and THEN you can add in your own preferences and styles, instead it’s really rigid and fixed.
Compare that to Lady Nilstria’s “how to draw women” guide:
http://ladynilstria.deviantart.com/#/d4rjhcs
which is way more general and teaches you the basics rather than how to drawn women the specific way she thinks you should down to how long their eyebrows should be, or how thick their lips should be.

And now I’M reblogging because I totally agree with what’s been commented before, because that how-to page is really narrow-minded and offensive (really? Eyeliner before I leave the bathroom? My nose is masculine? I’ll MAKE your nose masculine), and because I think I’m going to follow through on the suggestion that’s been made to write a book about drawing comic book and fantasy women in the same vein as I do this tumblr. I think I’d just need guidance to get started, and a deadline to get me working on it steadily. 
So… anyone know anything about guide book planning, structuring and composition? I could self-publish, but I’d like to see if I could beat back the Christopher Hart “fame” by getting a wide distribution… 

eschergirls:

talesfromtheend:

eschergirls:

A) I love how drawing women to him means “drawing women who wear make up in a style I like” and that superheroines apparently spend a lot of their off-time applying mascara and eyeliner.

B) Men can’t wear earrings?  Women must?

C) Again, the intense fear of making women “masculine.”  Apparently nose bridges are only for men now.  We must inform our DNA of this! 

D) I wish he would stop using “woman” to mean just one really really thin narrow standard of beauty.  Supposedly, he’s teaching people how to draw WOMEN right, not “this particular woman, complete with make up and pouty lips.”

He’s not teaching us how to draw women as much as his (and society’s) artificial idea of what women should look like, complete with eyeliner, mascara and earrings.

I need to rebloob this because all, ALL of these ‘how to draw comics women’ and ‘how to draw manga’ books need to go away. They’re extremely harmful to the development of beginning artists. They’re completely counterproductive in teaching formulaic ways of drawing people and advocate doing things in a specific style straight off the bat, as opposed to learning the basics through realism and THEN stylizing with a complete understanding of *what* you’re breaking apart and reassembling and how it’s constructed.

There’s SO much more to human faces than predefined ratios and proportions and ‘ideal’ shapes, and by telling young artists to remove the exact most defining traits of human facial features (and anatomy as a whole) is like breaking their kneecaps and then telling them to learn to run. The emphasis absolutely needs to be centered on drawing and painting varied and interesting faces with personality in them, not some strictly predefined hyper-idealized features that leave out everything that actually enables us to tell one face from another.

I’m saying this because this kind of thinking really crippled my learning for years and I had to unlearn all this shit and start over from scratch. I wish someone had told me early on that I was doing it wrong and needed to do it THIS way to get any good at it.

I’m reblogging this comment because it’s absolutely correct and needs to be spread around.  This is exactly the problems with these kinds of “how to draw comics” guide because it’s really “how to draw a very very specific style” and the how to draw women stuff is really “how to draw women as I specifically like them down to wearing eyeliner” and it doesn’t teach you any basics to draw people and THEN you can add in your own preferences and styles, instead it’s really rigid and fixed.

Compare that to Lady Nilstria’s “how to draw women” guide:

http://ladynilstria.deviantart.com/#/d4rjhcs

which is way more general and teaches you the basics rather than how to drawn women the specific way she thinks you should down to how long their eyebrows should be, or how thick their lips should be.

And now I’M reblogging because I totally agree with what’s been commented before, because that how-to page is really narrow-minded and offensive (really? Eyeliner before I leave the bathroom? My nose is masculine? I’ll MAKE your nose masculine), and because I think I’m going to follow through on the suggestion that’s been made to write a book about drawing comic book and fantasy women in the same vein as I do this tumblr. I think I’d just need guidance to get started, and a deadline to get me working on it steadily. 

So… anyone know anything about guide book planning, structuring and composition? I could self-publish, but I’d like to see if I could beat back the Christopher Hart “fame” by getting a wide distribution…